Unchained

[Rick]

here we go, 90% happy which is good enough considering it gave me blisters last week.

mine is here http://www.rkendall.com/music/unchained.wmv

although not that hard a track to learn notes wise the phrasing of van halen is all over the place.
I'm just glad to see the back of it.

robs will follow
this is just for fun. don't forget to vote.

[Rob]

OK as Rick says just for fun, I have had to fit this in between work cooking cleaning, lookin after the kids, lovin the mrs a hard fitness regime to keep me in shape as you can see from the vid, err oh yea and I couldnt sleep last night so this was done at 02:00 this morning

k3H9acuBIw4

[daveyravey]

The dog looked impressed Rick ;)

Well done guys on the effort :-D

[bigdoug]

well ricks is great but robs is still uploading will have another go at getting it 2moro. :thumb:

[Highway Star]

Blimey!!

Rick + 1 point for the guitar!
Rob + 1 point for the volume! (I like it loud!!)

One rep point each from the rep point miser! (Mother that is!)

I am really well impressed with both versions and I'm glad I was not part of this chalenge!! I could never have pulled off anything so good as either version! Kudos guys! Big Kudos! And Rob matey, the training has taken off a bit of weight I think! LOL

So.... no vote yet it's too hard to call on only three listens to each!! Ha!

Tomorrow....

Norman

[Stew]

I would like to have heard you both play this over a complete backer and not the original. But helluva great playing guys. Rob got my vote as I just enjoyed the raw power and effortless look it had to it. Well done both of you.

[Rick]

its been ages since i got a rep point :-D

[Rick]

I would like to have heard you both play this over a complete backer and not the original. But helluva great playing guys. Rob got my vote as I just enjoyed the raw power and effortless look it had to it. Well done both of you.

it is a backer stew! no guitar at all

[Stew]

Much apologies then guys even better :thumb:

Don't know how you guys can do it learning a track like that so complex and so quickly would take me a year lol

[Danny Danzi]

Hahah you guys both did a great job on this! You both excelled in different areas here, but it was a great watch for sure! My only negative is there were some timing issues in both vids in both the leads and the rhythms, but I could tell you both did your homework with some of the authentic licks and tricks. I really liked the tone you both got also and some of the improv parts.

Now that said, these video's should be a lesson to you both as to how you can improve your playing IF indeed you'd like to do that. Though is was for fun and both of you put forth very valiant efforts on a song that is a bit tricky at times, the fact remains that the timing issues are things you both need to look into deeper.

Ask yourselves "was it just because this tune was challenging to us, or do I really have a timing problem in all the stuff I play?" That is not a bash on either one of you, I'm sincerely trying to be helpful here. Sure, I know you guys are having fun playing guitar and aren't looking to be rockstars or true pro's or anything, but I would like to consider you bot very SERIOUS hobbiest's that would like to improve where you are, correct?

If you are completely happy with what you did and don't feel timing issues are of any concern, you are right where you want to be in your playing. But, if in fact this is something you would like to fix, I would suggest working this out before you spend any more time working on new licks, techniques and more advanced material. Timing is very important whether you are a pro, a novice or just a bedroom dreamer. Proper timing would have gained both of you more points than authenticity or a proper solo.

If our timing is weak, everything we do will be weak also. Again, please don't take any of this to heart I really am trying to help. If I sugar coated this and said "wow guys, fantastic job you both ruled!" I would be lying to you in a sense. I don't lie to my friends that I care about. I tell little white lies to those I don't know or when I feel it's not my place to speak. But in the case of you 2, I really love you both as people, respect you as players and believe in what you do even if it's just for fun. If I didn't care enough, "great job guys" would be enough. But to me, that doesn't do you any justice.

Yes, you both performed well, yes you both had some magic moments, yes you both made the song sound like the song, yes there were some killer improv parts as well as authentic shades of Eddie, but there were also some pretty serious timing issues that need to be addressed and you need to see if these timing issues go beyond this particular song and into others.

Sometimes we just play something that is challenging to us. I know this all too well. But other times, we can learn by what we have played that has challenged us and it makes us dig a little deeper into ourselves to see where we can maybe improve. Now that improvement depends on whether or not the players wishes to improve or feels there is an issue at all. It's kinda like an alcoholic that is in denial at times. We sometimes do not want to believe we have a problem in a certain area or we sometimes get upset when someone mentions something that we already know exists.

I have read from both of you that you were having a bit of an issue with the timing of this song, so I knew before I listened that I would probably hear a few artifacts from this. The question is, do you want to fix it or are you happy with it as it is? Also, does this branch out into other things that you do, have you noticed it and does it bother you enough to want to fix it?

This was really a fine effort. I'm just trying to get into your heads a bit guys and be an honest friend that cares. I'm not trying to belittle you or make you feel bad. But me personally, I'd rather hear someome with perfect timing that may not be a technical player over someone that is loaded with tech and can't keep time as well, understand what I mean? I'm not implying that towards you guys, I'm just saying in general, timing is very crucial in our playing. To me it is more important than any lick, trick or technique you could throw at me. That's just my take, and I mean no offense with any of this. Again, I'm just sincerely trying to help.

That said, and I mean this, you both did a very good job and you should be proud. This isn't an easy song in spots other than the main riff. The lead is quirky and is one of the leads I always cringed on when it came to that part in the song when I used to play it live. EVH has weird things in his tunes and some of them are not easy to cop, so I give you both full props for attempting this and definitely pulling it off. If we fix the timing issues, we'll be beyond "golden". Just my take on it...well done gents! :)

[Danny Danzi]

Hmm I guess I'll have to vote on this now....I'll have to ponder this for a bit. ;)

[Rob]

great stuff guys thanks for listening and the rep points, Davey, Norm, Stew I guess we are all in the same boat home bedroom players, so my response would be the same as yours because we know are limitations etc..

Danny what you have said pretty much somes my playing up, its all about the timing issues and I take no offence from a Pro pointing them out because it can only make me a better player.

I would have gotten there in the end with the timing but it would take so much more effort and alone time on my part. Some people have natural timing if that makes sense, I think I need to find a process of improving mine in the time I have available. Excersises or practice routines with a metrononome, I dont know. Thanks for taking the time.

[Stew]

I wish i knew the answer as I don't post much music because of my timing issues. It is the one big thing that hinders me and gets me down to be honest.

[Scali]

I'm not sure about the timing either.
I've never practiced with a metronome. I do play along with backingtracks or with CD, radio etc... so in a way there's a 'metronome' there... But I don't literally go "Okay now I am going to practice at X bpm", and increase the speed everytime. Nothing that structured. I do try to really 'get into' the beat, tap my foot or nod my head in rhythm with the song, heck, exaggerate a bit, to really 'feel' that rhythm, and try to put in the notes at the exact time. I even do that when recording certain stuff, especially when I want to play slightly behind the beat or so. It's hard for me to do that consistently.

I think it's more in the amount of practice you put in... at least, for me. The more often you practice a certain passage, the more natural it becomes to play, and the faster you can execute it. So I tend to just pick out passages or exercises that trouble me, and try to practice those, instead of doing the whole song everytime.

[zombo]

Well done lads a hard track to play I really enjoyed it loads I have cast my Zombo vote brilliant compliments to both of you !

[bluesgeek]

cracking job guys, my vote is between me and my conscience ;)

[Rick]

cheers chaps..
i'm going to have to get me a speak and type like dannys.

how i judge how well i get through a song is if it feels rushed when i'm learning it and this still felt quite rushed in places, bizarrely having been playing the solo to fast all weekend i played it to slow on this and for the most part i was still having to think to remember which parts came next which also didn't help much.

i'll brush this up over the next few weeks and the timing issues will go i'll also get it so i get the difficult 2nd harmonic in the solo every time.

for those who havent voted, get clicking.

17 viewers 7 votes.....

[ZappaFan]

Hey dudes !! Great tracks from both of you, well done, I am mightily impressed that you both did such a cool job in such a short time.

Kinda tough to pick a winner, gonna have another couple of plays through first.

[zeusse]

Well I'm impressed by both of you giving that song a shot...I've covered it and it aint an easy VH tune to play...I'm gonna have to watch this a few more times both of you have your own flair happening...but congrats for doing a great job on it.....darn now I've had to pull out that backer again:smile:

[Six]

Based on the playing alone I can't decide between the two of you, you both did a great job considering the short amount of time you had available to get this done. Sure there were some timing issues but these would be ironed out if you both had a month of practice instead of a week before hitting that record button, besides, we all know how difficult it can be to nail something as soon as the red light is blinking no matter how many times we've nailed it before.

This wasn't an exercise in videography so I can't judge based on the quality of the video either.

To make a decision, I had to sit back and take in the whole production, then ask myself 'Which was the most entertaining in a complete package sort of way?' This resulted in my judgment being made based solely on one of the versions being slightly easier to listen to, and that was only because of volume. So my vote has to go to Rob simply because Rick's was a bit too quiet. If there was not a volume issue I would have had to abstain from voting!

Great effort from both of you, give yourselves a pat on the back!

[Highway Star]

Whilst I can see exactly where Danny is coming from, timing is of course essential, my view is this.... What we are voting on is a couple of budding amatuer guitarists (sorry guys but I put myself in that bracket as well) who have, in a short time, learnt to play a song by one of the most talented guitarists of all time, selected a tone and played it through without breaks "warts'n'all" style whilst being captured on video for all to see and vote on! Heady stuff for the aspiring bedroom warrior! I can fully see that (within reason) we all want to be as good as we can I, like a lot of other folk, held the view that "once I learn to play (insert your own inspirational tune) then I'll be happy" the reality is that once you learn it you want to play it better and then move on to the next one! LOL But... keeping this in context and looking at the positives, I would still say "Big Kudos" guys. I would also say... now you have learnt it, keep playing it and record it again in a couple of months and view the difference, I am convinced there will be one!

Norman

[Rick]

that'd be the truth farl, we only took a week to learn it from scratch. What we could have done is spent 2 or 3 weeks and the end result would have been far far better but that wasn't the idea, we gave ourselves a couple of extra days for one reason or another but that was about it.

i love these battles because they will make us better players; both me and rob are under no illusion about the tracks we put down and know there is great room for improvement.
From memory when we did the panama one we had less time that we have for this one and all the same gremlins occured.

its just for fun and hopefully rob will be buying me a beer next time he is out here and i beat him 10 -9 :-D

ps just to address another issue, the voloume on mine i had to record with the what you hear setting on and to get enough volume the guitar had to be low or it just went mental.

[Rob]

Whilst I can see exactly where Danny is coming from, timing is of course essential, my view is this.... What we are voting on is a couple of budding amatuer guitarists (sorry guys but I put myself in that bracket as well) who have, in a short time, learnt to play a song by one of the most talented guitarists of all time, selected a tone and played it through without breaks "warts'n'all" style whilst being captured on video for all to see and vote on! Heady stuff for the aspiring bedroom warrior! I can fully see that (within reason) we all want to be as good as we can I, like a lot of other folk, held the view that "once I learn to play (insert your own inspirational tune) then I'll be happy" the reality is that once you learn it you want to play it better and then move on to the next one! LOL But... keeping this in context and looking at the positives, I would still say "Big Kudos" guys. I would also say... now you have learnt it, keep playing it and record it again in a couple of months and view the difference, I am convinced there will be one!

Norman

Farl, six was spot in what he was saying, it is the dreaded hit the record button and start playing thing with me, once you are behind or ahead its the same all the way through the song. I am a bedroom warrior no doubt but as Danny said I would like to be a better bedroom warrior so for me and I know the majority of us if there is something wrong we want to fix it. Im gonna take a little break and get on with Eruption for the next one LOL meanwhile I am finding when im practicing its far more beneficial for me to play over an original or something with voice in to help with my timing, although it didn't show in the vid.

[Rob]

that'd be the truth farl, we only took a week to learn it from scratch. What we could have done is spent 2 or 3 weeks and the end result would have been far far better but that wasn't the idea, we gave ourselves a couple of extra days for one reason or another but that was about it.

i love these battles because they will make us better players; both me and rob are under no illusion about the tracks we put down and know there is great room for improvement.
From memory when we did the panama one we had less time that we have for this one and all the same gremlins occured.

its just for fun and hopefully rob will be buying me a beer next time he is out here and i beat him 10 -9 :-D

ps just to address another issue, the voloume on mine i had to record with the what you hear setting on and to get enough volume the guitar had to be low or it just went mental.

thing is rick you couldnt play it before and now we can (timing aside) ERuption up next for us and you have an advantage there because you been playing that for years.

Did you know we can buy Keo here now in sainsburys I will buy some to celebrate my win :ser:

[Danny Danzi]

Whilst I can see exactly where Danny is coming from, timing is of course essential, my view is this.... What we are voting on is a couple of budding amatuer guitarists (sorry guys but I put myself in that bracket as well) who have, in a short time, learnt to play a song by one of the most talented guitarists of all time, selected a tone and played it through without breaks "warts'n'all" style whilst being captured on video for all to see and vote on!

Ah Farl, don't think for a second I didn't take all of that into consideration man. This is why I rarely open my mouth when people post tunes. Sometimes the effects of what "I" consider to be honesty don't come across correctly. The fact of the matter is I don't believe there is a single person alive that plays guitar that wishes to be a "bad guitarist" and sometimes, they don't even realize some faults exist either because they are just too close to themselves, their material, or no one had the balls to tell them like it is. I don't fear speaking my mind when I care about the person/people that have presented me with something to listen to. If I lose a friend or a few friends over it, so be it...they can live in their sugar coated world of "good job, you rule, fantastic, superb" and be lied to while errors exist and will never be fixed.

Now the above is an extreme case of course and doesn't pertain to our 2 posters here, but just MAYBE I've heard timing issues in these individuals before on other posts that I thought were MAYBE due to being unfamiliar with a piece etc. And MAYBE I was just listening and happened to notice the problems seem to be continuing which tells me MAYBE the guys don't realize there is a timing problem. Do you follow where I'm going with this at all man? I'm honestly not trying to be a dick.

There are 3 reasons for timing issues.

1. Unfamiliar with what you are playing to where you are thinking more about what you are playing and when things are supposed to happen. This same principal applies to playing a lick too fast before you actually can play it slow and productive. The reason we play things fast and accurate is because we can play them slow and flawlessly. We mess up trying to play something too fast too soon because we are thinking too much about the lick instead of knowing it so well, the thought process is no longer involved. I have this issue with singing and playing guitar at the same time. I must know my guitar parts completely without thinking about them before I can sing at the same time or I'm toast. I sincerely believe Rick and Rob would be associated with reason one here for the timing, but it never hurts to point it out so they are always focused when they do something.

2. Red light intimidation: The little red light is something that is bothersome to many people, myself included. I can sit here and be so well rehearsed and accurate on something that my confidence level will soar to an almost high. When that dumb red light comes on I sometimes sound like I've been playing for a month and I forget everything I worked on. This is why I use my studio as often as I can to get myself ready for when I go into a REAL studio. Each time you get used to that little red light and can build your confidence, it somewhat fades into the abyss. But it never really totally leaves you, especially if the studio you're in charges $300 an hour....then you REALLY stress! LOL!!

3. A timing issue very well could exist and it is what it is. It only needs to be fixed if the person playing knows about it and is bothered about it.

It seems to me that what I've offered in my original post may have struck a nerve in a few people in not so many words. They may not agree with me "because this was for fun" and that's ok. Isn't everything you guys post on this site "for fun"? Has there been anything from anyone posted on here other than Visco, Paul or Gramham G that was done for production or sale? So it's all for fun regardless of how much time we spend or what the outcome is, correct? If this is the case will the words "for fun" be the words that excuse our future errors? Do you not want people with a little credibility to offer advice when something doesn't sound right and tell it honest and like it is? Please tell me now so I know to never say another word about a single post on here. (that's not said in a mean tone, honest.)

I don't sit here picking people apart or listening to them in my own image bro, nor do I think I'm better than anyone else. It matters not who is better than me or who those consider me to be better than. My personal war with my playing is within myself to be the best I can be whether I have a record deal tomorrow or not. I would hope those that play guitar and have spent the time on this instrument would feel the same way regardless of what level they have achieved.

If I have offended anyone as well as Rick and Rob, please forgive me, I am truly sorry. I seriously meant no harm and knew what your plans were for this entire thing from the beginning. I honestly took all of that into account but heard some timing issues that I felt were pretty severe enough to mention because I care, not to be a big mouthed bully with an ego. None of us are perfect and a little grit under the nails is always a good thing over being overly polished, perfect and stale. I honestly meant no harm.

[Rob]

If I have offended anyone as well as Rick and Rob, please forgive me, I am truly sorry. I seriously meant no harm and knew what your plans were for this entire thing from the beginning. I honestly took all of that into account but heard some timing issues that I felt were pretty severe enough to mention because I care, not to be a big mouthed bully with an ego. None of us are perfect and a little grit under the nails is always a good thing over being overly polished, perfect and stale. I honestly meant no harm.

Im just gonna speak for me on this one Danny, Rick will no doubt jump in to,
No offence taken what so ever just keep listening and keep advising because we are lucky to have you take an interest, and I'm not sucking d***s here I take in everything from everyone but not many of the pros or great players who come on this site ever bother making the effort unless it is about themselves.

:thumb:

[zeusse]

Danny I don't think anybody here could ever acuse you of being mean in spirit in a post here...if they've been here long enough they'd know a great member and friend you have been to all the members here giving your expertise in areas where most have never been or will get a chance to go...Ok this is a fun challenge and should be considered nothing more or less and I would take no offence to any criticism from yourself, in fact I welcome criticism because there is always room for improvement in my playing. There are so many styles to guitar and not everyone can play all of them...if that guy exists your the only one I can think of Danny. As much as we all enjoy a pat on the back for our effort at a certain point you also have to accept a friendly bit of criticism...and Danny I think was being polite and as fair as he can be with his comments. If you were never takin to task in your life you would be as dumm as Paris Hilton remember that! Improvement first requires realization of the truth....I just made that up..COOOL...anyways remember we are all here to help each other if you didn't need help you'd already be a God...oops there's another goodness I'm full of them today must have been the cheerioo's this morning......Both you guys gave the song a good go and are happy with what you've done and thats the important thing.....yep I'm happy:jump:

[zeusse]

I wish i knew the answer as I don't post much music because of my timing issues. It is the one big thing that hinders me and gets me down to be honest.by the way Stew your timing is not that bad dude I think you struggle from the record button than anything else...here's a tip it isn't really there...just hit delete, thats how I deal with it

[Highway Star]

Do you follow where I'm going with this at all man? I'm honestly not trying to be a dick.



LOL I follow you just fine matey and admire your honesty and your ability to tell it as it is. In fact our opinions do not really differ that much. Of course I also hear the timing issues I guess I just fill in the cracks a little. I do not do it to just say yep, you are great, fab, well done etc etc I just do it as a mark of respect for the effort put in so far. Yep there is room for improvement but I still believe that for guitarists of our ability then that was a good job. I also appreciate that you thought it was, in the timescale available and, with the playing ability that these guys have it was a damned fine effort but.... it can be used to become a better player. I think it is just our perspective that differs slightly. Not on timing, it is either in time or not and my one good ear works just fine! LOL I think though that you see it from a far more acomplished position than me and... that in my view is a good thing because without a different perspective we are all limited in our options to grow as guitarists.

I also think that your words of wisdom are in fact fine and astute observations. In no way have they touched a nerve. I have read and agreed with the comments. Some may view it as "tough love" but I see it as a genuine desire to help and think it is fantastic that you take the time and effort to give us the benefit of your knowledge. Long may it continue.

If I were Rob or Rick I would be dead chuffed at your response and try to move it on to the next level.

One step at a time. We may be lucky enough to get there (somewhere...)

I started to learn a tune tonight. I'll post it at the weekend and would most welcome your comments if you would care to listen to it.

Norman

[daveyravey]

There is a saying......"tis a poor man that can't take a little constructive crititism".

[Danny Danzi]

Stone: Thanks, keep advising I will....but only if there is a need to. Something good is something good. ;)

Eric: Thanks, that's how I would hope to be taken. I appreciate ther kind words. :)

Norm: It's cool you feel that way, I was just making sure. Ya see, I have 3 sets of ears. The pair that listens as a normal common listener, the pair that listens for instrumental errors and the pair that listenes to production. Sometimes it's very difficult to seperate them and just be "normal". I'm in work mode when I'm suppoed to be in "I don't give a fook" mode. I have to sometimes slap myself in the face and say "dude, chill it's not that important".

And you're right about the "tough love" comment, but ONLY if it needs to be said that way. If you revert back to my original post, there is more praise than fault found in these 2 gentleman. I just went more in depth with the fault part because the praise was already top shelf. ;) In my teachings with students, I'm a very tough teacher. I have fired more students than I have currently. But, the 6 that I have are as good as our own Kirk (Lyle) on this site or better. So I'm stoked to have 6 great kids that live this stuff. With every fault I find and discuss with them at great length, there are words of praise as well so I never deter them from progress. If I was a constant miser like my old teacher was to me (blowing smoke rings off my forehead when I messed up calling me "Ace" in a scary, monotone voice. Dude was 6'4 huge, biker, scary looking very intimdating and played like Satan himself while resembling a huge Carmine Apice) I might not have any students. But my teacher was fantastic and was tougher on me than anyone else. He believed in me and though he showed tough love, one day I went there and played for him and he looked at me very sad.

He was never sad, always kinda mean and rarely smiled until I started to prove myself. He looked at me with those dark eyes that didn't seem so dark and scary anymore and said "I can't teach you anymore...you are now teaching me." I didn't know what to say to him. I felt a feeling of sadness and achievement all at once. It wasn't that I was better than him or anything, but I had moved to a different level and style to where he could no longer assist me. We're best buds to this day and jam every few months so I see the nice guy he is. He was never a tyrant at all, just a man that believed in me and felt that fear would push me to the next level. In my particular case, he was right. Others either left him or he fired them for wasting his time and their parents money. Some of that has definitely rubbed off on me, but like I say, with every fault I find, I will praise the good stuff as well because we all need a positive boost.

For sure I'll listen to your tune and comment, just don't be upset if I'm brutally honest with you because you sir, have talent and could be doing something with your music the same as many others I could name here. The only difference between me and some of the others here is I'm anal about everything I do. That's really what being a pro is...being precise. It's not a measurment of a record deal, popularity or how techy you are, it's how well you deliver the goods on your own level. Just remember this...Cobain was a pro. LMAO! I'd take anyone on this site to play guitar in my band over that guy...so what does that tell you as far as the word "pro player" goes? ;)

[zeusse]

The only difference between me and some of the others here is I'm anal about everything I do. That's really what being a pro is...being precise. It's not a measurment of a record deal, popularity or how techy you are, it's how well you deliver the goods on your own level. Just remember this...Cobain was a pro. LMAO! I'd take anyone on this site to play guitar in my band over that guy...so what does that tell you as far as the word "pro player" goes? ;)Exactly! When someone is forking out major dough to record something and has contracted your services, 1000% should be the minimum of effort if not more. Yes I chuckle inside when somebody refers to guys like Cobain as a great player...not! But a good song writer that touched a nerve in a certain generation...yes! Alot of guys on this site can make it as a Pro if they truly wanted to chase it, there's way better guitar playing here than half the crap on the radio...but why are they there because they chased it...are we lazy? maybe and then maybe not. The cards in lifes deck are always being shuffled so you take the hand your dealt with and make a decision on to bluff of fold...and then luck decides it....just my way of looking at it all and I wait for my Royal Flush...LOL

[Guitarpima]

I had a hard time choosing myself. The reason I like this forum is because no one has to be perfect. Which suits me fine since I am not a great player. I consider myself a good player and I am getting better at relaxing when I hit the "record" button. So hats off to you both for hitting the record button on a video camera as well!

Rock on!

[Steve Zane]

Can I choose both? :mrgreen:

Great job and effort guys!

[Rick]

it's looking like rick is buying the beers!!! :-D

[bigdoug]

flippin heck what a thread, I go off to work for a change and miss all the excitement..again lol.

[Six]

There is a saying......"tis a poor man that can't take a little constructive crititism".

Or there's this one... "tis a conceited git that considers himself too good for constructive criticism"

I say "Bring it on", especially from someone as qualified as Danny. All I ever ask is that any criticism given is backed up with helpful advice on how to correct the issues raised and Danny never misses a beat (pun intended) on that score!

[Tony4552]

2 excellent versions here, well done lads

[daveyravey]

Or there's this one... "tis a conceited git that considers himself too good for constructive criticism"


LMAO very true Phil

[Rick]

personally i think evh played it wrong and me and rob nailed it....
erm nope hang on that was just a sad dream.

drove past the Keo factory in limassol today rob, picked you a couple of fresh ones up :-)

it'll be 1 a piece now unless i get my mum kids and wife to vote for me, i may just put the sabbath one on the back burner for a short while and do the eruption first even more so now tony4552 said he want's to do a version :-D fancy betting all your hopes on a track is near impossible to get right.

[Rob]

personally i think evh played it wrong and me and rob nailed it....
erm nope hang on that was just a sad dream.

drove past the Keo factory in limassol today rob, picked you a couple of fresh ones up :-)

it'll be 1 a piece now unless i get my mum kids and wife to vote for me, i may just put the sabbath one on the back burner for a short while and do the eruption first even more so now tony4552 said he want's to do a version :-D fancy betting all your hopes on a track is near impossible to get right.


Cheers rick but it aint over till its over.

I had a little break last night so back to the task in hand, I got to restring my jackson though I prefer the maple fretboard.

[Scali]

The only difference between me and some of the others here is I'm anal about everything I do. That's really what being a pro is...being precise. It's not a measurment of a record deal, popularity or how techy you are, it's how well you deliver the goods on your own level. Just remember this...Cobain was a pro. LMAO! I'd take anyone on this site to play guitar in my band over that guy...so what does that tell you as far as the word "pro player" goes? ;)

Yea, the way I think of it: How did you play before you had a record deal? Or what about Joe Satriani, Steve Vai and all those other guitar gods? They were already insanely good players long before they got signed?
Why? Because they were anal about practicing guitar.

[Rick]

anymore for anymore!!!!

[Stew]

16/32 people voted who viewed the thread common guys vote one way or another!!

[Rob]

16/32 people voted who viewed the thread common guys vote one way or another!!

how do you work that figure out Stew? The thread has 43 replies and been viewed 524 times, is 16/32 the ammount of times the videos have been viewed?

[Rick]

go right to the bottom of the page,
Members who have read this thread : 32

benwave (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1209), bigdoug (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=206), Blue (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=294), bluesgeek (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=392), Bluto (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=680), bwdavis99 (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=810), celteire (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1475), Danny Danzi (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=63), daveyravey (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1506), doc (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=773), Guitarpima (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=728), HappySinner (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1164), highway star (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=49), ini (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=432), Jack (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1391), kaz (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=3), kirk (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1017), rick (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1), Rick_Lamoreaux (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1131), Scali (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=899), Sille (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1089), six (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=690), Stempy (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=415), stevedak (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=647), Stew (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=274), Stone Free (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=1264), Tony4552 (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=11), Viscolex (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=549), Zane72 (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=710), ZappaFan (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=399), zeusse (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=246), zombo (http://www.6stringheaven.com/forum/vb/member.php?u=146)

[Stew]

Oh well seems to have worked 1 out of the 32 has voted this morning :thumb:

[daveyravey]

Wisnae me... honest guv

[Lyle]

that was me stew

[Highway Star]

Oh well seems to have worked 1 out of the 32 has voted this morning :thumb:

It's not that bad is it? 17 out of 32 voted plus Rick and Rob did not vote so, 17 out of 30 or... 57%......

Norman

[Stew]

that was me stewthanks Lyle there was no need to say so though!!...no we know who you voted for :lol: Anyway I just mentioned the votes so that we can try and get a bit better than the usual 50% of viewers voting...we live and hope I suppose.

[daveyravey]

Still poor tho' Stew

[zeusse]

personally i think evh played it wrong and me and rob nailed it....
erm nope hang on that was just a sad dream....hehe I don't think Ed gets it right half the time, so look at it as a comparable victory

[Rick_Lamoreaux]

There are elements on both takes that stand out IMO, but right now I'm not sure which one to choose, lol. :wall:

[daveyravey]

Just close yer eyes & go for it Rick :lol: