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Rick
05-04-2009, 05:56 PM
i actually passed a cse in music at school, god alone knows how.
since those heady days most of my brain cells have been destroyed with newcastle brown and other stuff..

Anyway tonight i thought, hmm wonder if i can remember any of it, so i went on the prowl and found

How to read music (http://www.wikihow.com/Read-Music)

when i get my house back i'm actually going to try to get my head around it again, it wasn't to hard when i was like 13, so 30 years on lets see if i can actually make sense out of it.

Stempy
05-04-2009, 06:19 PM
When I played trumpet at school I could sight read but haven't bothered trying it with guitar as TAB is so freely available for most stuff.

Rick
05-04-2009, 06:22 PM
its funny even though i got my cse i didn't play an instrument at school, with the exception of the recorder, and i only did that to get out of maths

Six
05-04-2009, 07:18 PM
I sort of understand it, in so much as I can write TAB using Power Tab Editor and have it playing back the way it should. To do this requires a basic understanding of note lengths i.e. sixteenth notes, quarter notes etc. and other little things like staccato notes and tie-notes.
There's no way on this earth I could possibly read a line of musical score and play along though!

MareGoldnHr
05-04-2009, 07:34 PM
I can read music if you need any help rick! I played clarinet and alto clarinet from age 6 until after I graduated high school in marching band, concert band, and woodwind quartets. When I first started playing guitar, I actually didn't understand tab because it didn't tell you all the important information music notation does, such as the time signature, key, musical terminology and tempo! Eventually I got the hang of tab and now I can play by notation, tab and by ear! I think being able to read music adds to your arsenal as a musician and helps if you are interested in songwriting! Mare :)

Tony4552
05-04-2009, 09:03 PM
I can sight read notation, my piano playing days helped me there

Guitarpima
05-04-2009, 10:12 PM
I can read music. In college I played bass in the jazz band and could sight read at speeds up to 210bpm. Not anymore though. I can't read as well as I used to since my eyesight has worsened over the years though. I understood tab when I first saw it but thought it was way too much trouble.

mullyman
05-04-2009, 11:06 PM
When I was in school I played clarinet and could read music but it's been close to 30 years. I started in on piano lessons a year or so ago and was forced to read the scores in front of me but that only lasted about 3 months. I'm thinking of getting the piano lessons going again from this month.
MULLY

zeusse
06-04-2009, 01:18 AM
Any help Rick just ask I only read sheet music...ohh more important than just reading the notes make sure you focus on the dynamics other wise your playing will just sound stale....and spend some time on the bass cleff lines too I know it might seem boring but knowledge on both is key. I'm actualy useless in reading tab that stuff is foreign to me.

bloodandtears
06-04-2009, 07:30 AM
as well as I can read French/Spanish etc.. not fluent but i can usually work it out eventually..

davros
06-04-2009, 09:13 AM
No no no.... you listen to music. you read words...... and sometimes pictures.

Rick
06-04-2009, 03:23 PM
Any help Rick just ask I only read sheet music...ohh more important than just reading the notes make sure you focus on the dynamics other wise your playing will just sound stale....and spend some time on the bass cleff lines too I know it might seem boring but knowledge on both is key. I'm actualy useless in reading tab that stuff is foreign to me.


i could just see me and you sat down having a music lesson..

ERIC, so rick what shall we do?
RICK, dunno eric.

brief pause!

beer?

the rest would be history

bongy0
27-04-2009, 03:05 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmm!

Shep
27-04-2009, 04:51 PM
I can read sheet music, only easy stuff though, stuff from Vai and co. are a no-go area!!

Guitarpima
27-04-2009, 06:35 PM
I can read sheet music, only easy stuff though, stuff from Vai and co. are a no-go area!!

It can be done mate! Just keep doing it. People do it all the time. I have no doubt you'll be doing it. If you keep at it, I bet withing 2 years you'll wonder why you ever posted this.

midiwiz
28-04-2009, 04:10 AM
I can read music and would be glad to help in any way I can, but I think I 'd rather drink the Newcastle Brown!!

Rob
28-04-2009, 09:48 AM
do you want to read music? Don't think it's required for Rock Guitar, maybe teh gay keyboards ;-)

bloodandtears
28-04-2009, 11:57 AM
i can read it but only very slowly.... like a wordsearch/sudoko kinda of exercise..

Rick
28-04-2009, 01:08 PM
do you want to read music? Don't think it's required for Rock Guitar, maybe teh gay keyboards ;-)


yup gay keyboards it is!

Stew
28-04-2009, 01:15 PM
why oh why would you want to learn? you have learned guitar by ear so why not keyboard by ear too? :smile:

Rick
28-04-2009, 01:55 PM
because i do.

zeusse
29-04-2009, 03:07 AM
i could just see me and you sat down having a music lesson..

ERIC, so rick what shall we do?
RICK, dunno eric.

brief pause!

beer?

the rest would be historyWe just start with beer and as long as we can make out a treble cleff and the key signature we're OK...basicaly thats it Rick...learn theory end the basics, staffs, key signature,...you know #<this is a sharp....b<thats a flat....blah ,blah...really its just more precise tablature and after awhile it is faster and easier to read than tab. You only have five lines to watch on the measure, and tab only shows where your fingers go. Now what good is that to a person who doesn't understand the exact lingo of the song...but a person who can read music just matches the notes on paper to the fretboard and understands what a glisendo, stacatto,is yep retard is not just a word for handicapped people does mean slow in music terms. Basicaly if you have the time for all this internet fun you have time to really learn music...its not just about the playing. I don't usualy pipe in on your discussions on modes and scales because that has to get done regardless, but what are you really playing? Can you name all the notes as you play them...most cannot...read the same scale or mode on transcribed music sheet and its easy....after awhile you read it like the newspaper. Your ear can be used to feel the song. Playing ain't the big issue if learning how to read music is your issue....you will always be learning how to play but reading you only learn once and its done.

Guitarpima
29-04-2009, 04:05 AM
It gets easier as you go. The trick is to percervere and keep at it. The only part that is tricky is where on the guitar you should play the notes. That comes with time also. If you get good enough, you can read music and one key but play it in another.

Rob
29-04-2009, 09:11 AM
wish I had the time but I can only study so much, I got to study for work any more and I would have no life or be burnt out, internet and what little guitar time I get is my only leisure at the moment (sad I know) at 44 I left it to late to be leraning music, I think it would just frustrate and confuse, I don't use tab much now anyway plus I have read a lot of great players can't read music. Learning the piano or violin is a different kettle of fish I suppose.

Good luck with it :-)

Rick
31-10-2010, 04:54 PM
old thread bumping time!

Our bass player reads music, and it looks kinda handy.
So with that in mind I dived to youtube and found a good video.

Now I'm like the village idiot with this stuff, but luckily so is this guy! (well not really, he's kinda cool just can't say note properly)


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GuitarFan
12-03-2011, 10:52 AM
Being able to read music will definitely help you. I have just finished writing a course on How To Read Sheet Music (http://www.learnhowtoreadsheetmusic.cm). There's a free lesson on offer and also some useful articles.
Hope it helps.

zombo
12-03-2011, 03:21 PM
Its not only knowing the notes its knowing them on your guitar but like back to front thats also important!

Rick
12-03-2011, 03:34 PM
Being able to read music will definitely help you. I have just finished writing a course on How To Read Sheet Music (http://www.learnhowtoreadsheetmusic.cm). There's a free lesson on offer and also some useful articles.
Hope it helps.

I wonder if we will ever see you again!

Guitarpima
15-03-2011, 02:26 AM
The only way to learn to read the notes on the staff and on the guitar is to just do it. Go slowly and say the names of the notes outloud. 20 minutes a day for 6 months and you will know how to read music. It just takes patience. So listen to Axel Rose.

There! All you need to know for free.