i know .sorry but im going to raise this horrible little issue up again , been thinking of ways to maybe try & evolve these jams without the horrible , competitive issue !! which i definatly dont want promote , but maybe say pairing up players ? doesnt have to be 1 genre , have a couple ,blues , rock ,shred . jive ,jazz ,hip hop ,whatever ?would a lets say good ,player be able to help a newer player , by working together on a bt , then posting it ? or even back to players of equal standing ? dont know , im by know means wanting to cause ww3 here ( you yanks will soon sort that 1 out ) lol . any way i dont think this issue will be resolved easily . maybe some1 will crack the code !! so to speak . just thought id write something down ,in the mean time lets keeps these jams comeing thick & fast , cos they definatlly help me , so im all right jack !! lol